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Tips, Tactics & Strategic Insights and Commentary
from The ROI Co-Founders, Pat Johnson and Dick Outcalt
Outcalt & Johnson: Retail Strategists LLC; Retail Turnaround Experts

Owner-Inspired. And Savvy.

The fanfare surrounding Artificial Intelligence can be reminiscent of breathless advertisements for do-everything kitchen gadgets: "But wait! There's more!!"

Amidst all that, we were intrigued to read about Scott Tannen*, the CEO and co-founder of the luxury bedding and home brand Boll & Branch. The company launched in 2014 as an online-only direct-to-consumer brand. 

  • "When we first started the business, I don't think we ever envisioned having any physical stores whatsoever," said Tannen. Then, in 2018, they opened their first permanent store. "We saw this massive performance change in the business, because customers could touch and feel the products," Tannen discovered. 

So Boll & Branch added more stores, and recently has turbo-charged their brick-and-mortar strategy. In just the past year, they have grown from 8 stores to 15. 

But here’s what captivated us: how they decide on store locations.

They use Zillow.

Yes, Zillow. Tannen spends time examining the residential housing markets in prospective store locations. 

Why? They're looking beyond household income.

Yes, their best customers have high incomes. More important, they have  homes with lots of bedrooms. 

  • “Even if they have more money in New York City, they’ve got more bedrooms in areas that have homes,” Tannen said. “So when we get to a slightly more suburban area, the customer that becomes a believer—their potential lifetime value increases exponentially.”

  • “If you look across our store mix, you’re going to start seeing a trend. We are in Birmingham, Alabama—very large houses relative to their market size. We’re not in downtown Chicago; we’re out in the western suburbs.”

Tannen admits that he spends a lot of time on Zillow to scout out new store locations. “Zillow is my favorite sport, actually.” Seems like he has not handed that off to AI.

Let’s be clear; AI is not to be dismissed. In fact, it no doubt powers Zillow! 

But the savvy and judgment of an owner is not to be dismissed, either. 

We find it rather inspiring.

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*"Why Boll & Branch’s Scott Tannen obsesses over Zillow to choose store locations."  Andrew Adam Newman, Retail Brew, November 3, 2025



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